Tuesday, October 30, 2012

Session 2 October 29 2012


The Hebrew concept of "sheol", literally meaning cave, but more often referring to death or the place where departed spirits go.  In the King James Version, and older translations of the Bible, Sheol was translated as Hell, though it referred to something very different from Christian concepts of Hell. 

In modern translations:
New Revised Standard Version - Sheol
New International Version  - the depths
The Message - underground
Good News - the world of the dead

Sheol was not heavenly or full of torment, it was not a place of reward or punishment, it was simply where the dead ended up.  Though it is described as the farthest point from heaven, God was in Sheol too. It was not the domain of Satan. It was a place of nothingness and even rest:  Job suggested he would rather have died as a baby and spend his life in Sheol than suffer the tragedies of his life; David asked his heirs to make his enemies suffer BEFORE they go to rest in Sheol.

Our best known reference to Sheol probably comes from Psalm 139.  Read the Psalm below and take time to imagine a God who would "go to Hell" for you...

Psalm 139:  1-12

O Lord, you have searched me and known me.
2 You know when I sit down and when I rise up;
   you discern my thoughts from far away.
3 You search out my path and my lying down,
   and are acquainted with all my ways.
4 Even before a word is on my tongue,
   O Lord, you know it completely.
5 You hem me in, behind and before,
   and lay your hand upon me.
6 Such knowledge is too wonderful for me;
   it is so high that I cannot attain it.

7 Where can I go from your spirit?
   Or where can I flee from your presence?
8 If I ascend to heaven, you are there;
   if I make my bed in Sheol, you are there.
9 If I take the wings of the morning
   and settle at the farthest limits of the sea,
10 even there your hand shall lead me,
   and your right hand shall hold me fast.
11 If I say, ‘Surely the darkness shall cover me,
   and the light around me become night’,
12 even the darkness is not dark to you;
   the night is as bright as the day,
   for darkness is as light to you.

We reviewed Chapters 1-2 of Wright's book, beginning with the questions asked in Keith Wright's survey.  Some commented on Question 3:  Who is going to Hell? and Question 6:  As you think of your relatives and friends, do you believe that any are going to Hell? 

For those who actually believe that there is a hell, whose purpose is eternal punishment:  Who decides?

Wright describes some life situations where belonging to a certain church or group defined who would be saved, and suggests that for some the fear of hell is reduced to think that there are clear categories and steps for avoiding Hell.  And yet the requirements get steeper:  certain beliefs, lifestyle choices, giving the tithe...

Jesus' references are to live with justice and care for the vulnerable - that's how his God holds us accountable!

We looked at some references in our own hymn book to Hell:
In Voices United (UCC) #213 - Rejoice the Lord is King and #161 - Welcome Happy Morning.

We looked at the traditional wording of the Apostles' Creed, and the version in Voices United, p. 918, where the older "he (Jesus) descended to Hell" has been revised to "he descended to the dead".

The reasons Wright wrote the book were discussed:
1.  The message of Hell he finds inconsistent with the witness to God's long and renewing love in scripture.
2.  It leads to exclusivity and making God too narrow.
3.  It has turned many good people away from faith and church.
4.  It relies on a particular theory of salvation, namely, atonement theology.

What does salvation mean to you? 

In Chapter 2, Wright looks at the various cultures neighbouring Israel and their approach to Hell to help us understand some of the aspects of Hell that were absorbed into Christian culture.

The Mesopotamian belief in the separation of the realms of Inanna, Queen of Earth and Heaven, and Ereshkigal, Queen of the Underworld.  When Inanna visited below, she was held "ransom" for the life of another.

The Egyptian Book of the Dead. where Anubis judges whether the soul will live again or suffer forever.

The Zoroastrian belief in a cosmic battle of light versus darkness, good versus evil, resulting ultimately in earth as Heaven or Hell.

The Israelites lacked a "life after death" theology, other than Sheol.  They "lived on" through their descendants.  About 300 BC, the "intertestamental" period (between Hebrew and Christian scriptures or the Old and New Testaments) gave rise to many foreign influences.  The threat of eternal punishment or reward were then held up to Jews who were wavering or witnessing to their true faith. If they suffer for their faith on earth, there will be reward in heaven.  If they take the easy way out on earth... Judgement Day!

Jesus talked more about the Kingdom of God/Heaven coming in the present time on earth, rather than End Times and other realms.  When he did speak about Hell it was usually to underline how urgent the choices were:  your life is wasted.  His image of future life or end times was based on the image of family or household  (John 14: In my Father's house there are many rooms...)

Two articles from CNN's Belief page were handed out as reading for next week:  Frank Schaeffer and Mark Driscoll's response to the film Hellbound and the question:  Should we abandon the idea of hell?

                                          

Monday, October 22, 2012

Session 1 October 22, 2012

Session 1, October 22 2012

As an opening, participants shared their name and an image of hell they learned in childhood.

Schedule of Readings:
October 22 – Introduction to the study
                                    Preface
                                    Appendix A: survey
October 29  - Chapters 1-2
 November 5 - Chapters 3-4
 November 12 – Writing Sacred Story
                                    Workshop with Ray McGinnis
 November 17- Chapters 5-6
 November 24 – Chapters 7-8


Opening Prayer:  by Sun Ai Park, Korea
All the broken hearts shall rejoice
All those whose hearts are heavy laden,
whose eyes are tired and do not see,
shall be lifted up to meet with
the motherly healer.
The battered souls and bodies
shall be healed;
the hungry shall be fed;
the imprisoned shall be free;
all her earthly children shall regain joy
in the  reign
of the just and living one
coming for you
coming for me
in this time
in this world.

Scripture reading from Luke 16:19-31
            One of the images we have of “hell”, from the teaching of Jesus.
            Rich man in Hades
from the Greek, meaning the place of the dead  - 3 interpretations                                        
(1)The place of the dead until they were judged appropriate for
either the Elyssian Fields (paradise) or Tartarus (torment)
(2)The place of punishment (torment)
(3)Neutral place meaning death/grave (nothingness)

The point of the story is DO NOT WAIT to do something now – It is not a story meant to teach about life after death!  Luke drew on images from culture around them – outside Jesus’ Jewish culture.

What strikes us though is the great uncrossable chasm; a metaphor we can apply to interpretations of hell in modern Christianity  

Up until 1960’s, theologically, churches were very similar – Baptist, United, Anglican, Presbyterian - all used ancient creeds and the King James Bible. 
-          Schisms over interpretation of scripture, which translation, judgement.
-          Followed by lifestyle choices  – what does it mean to be faithful?

Heaven’s Gates, Hell’s Fire video
What is your response? 

For many, this is the core of the Christian gospel - decide or descend! 

Some concervative theologians that "cross the divide", and question traditional interpretations of hell:  Rob Bell, Brian McLaren.  These questions have initiated an ECT debate (Eternal Concious Torment.)

Hope for this study – not just about the book, but awareness of other resources as well.  What is our world, our culture saying to us about our ultimate destination?  What does it mean for the way we live today?  Hopefully, we will find ways to incorporate personal experiences, new awareness, and other readings.

In the Preface of Wright’s book, he tells us his intended audience:
(1)   Believers in hell as a metaphysical place for eternal punishment;
(2)   Those who do not believe in hell, but still value the concept as a metaphor for the present day realities of the world;
(3)   Those who don’t know what to think!

Read over the questions in Wright's Survey and comment.

Closing Prayer:  
As we prepare to leave
and embrace the challenges of our lives and our world,
let us ask for God's blessing.

May God bless us with strength to seek justice, AMEN.
May God bless us with wisdom to care for our earth, AMEN.
May God bless us with love to bring forth new life, AMEN.
In the name of God, maker of the whole world,
of Jesus, our new covenant,
and of the Holy spirit, who opens eyes and hearts, AMEN.

Go in peace and be witnesses to hope.
Thanks be to God.  AMEN!
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